NSFW Pod 042 - Inara The Slut, part 1!

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Matthew Holliday: Welcome to the N S F W Photography Podcast, where we explore the art and business of erotic photography. We bring you in-depth interviews with photographers and models who push the boundaries of sexual expression. Through their work, we'll delve into their creative processes, the challenges they face, and the ways they're shaping the industry.

Whether you're a photographer or model looking to expand your portfolio, or simply a fan of erotic art, this is the podcast for you. So join us as we journey into the central side of photography and discover the beauty, intimacy, and empowerment that comes with it. Today we're interviewing Anar Star. Anar is a nude, boudoir, fetish, and erotic model based in Baltimore, frequently traveling to the D M V.

She started creating nude and fetish art in 2010 and has loved it ever since. You can find her on Instagram at Anar the Slut. Along with her tagline, slut is a term of endearment. How are you doing today?

Inara Starr: I'm doing great. How [00:01:00] are you?

Matthew Holliday: I am like I, I am stressful. I'm busy, but I'm here. We're gonna get this done. And then at some point, I'm supposed to be able to relax over the holidays, but I don't know when that's gonna be.

Inara Starr: I feel like that's a lie that they tell you.

Matthew Holliday: That sounds about right. I reached out to an several weeks ago to see if she was free to shoot in December. Unfortunately, I totally borked my schedule with work in personal trips and ghosted her for a month. I reached back out to her and was unable to schedule a shoot, but I was able to get her on the podcast.

Today we're gonna discuss the energy of a good shootout and what makes a good group of models versus a bad group of models and photographers, and in part two. At this episode, in two weeks, we will discuss some culture around the N F F W photography. I didn't write anything there. NSFW photography. What genre?

Around the genre, uh, in case you didn't notice. I have a new intro. This intro is written by chat G P t I said write me an intro for the Not Safe for Work Photography podcast. And that's what it gave me. [00:02:00] It's wacky. Yeah, I'm kind of impressed.

Inara Starr: Yeah.

Matthew Holliday: I actually put in some questions to see if it could come up with questions.

I was like, what questions would you ask an erotic model? And they were mostly pretty boring questions like, why have you chosen to, and we'll hit some of them, but they were, you know, there, there's nothing exceptional there, unfortunately.

Inara Starr: Yeah. Nothing super interesting.

Matthew Holliday: No, not yet. Although I have an idea, I have an idea for, cuz right now you can get software that transcribes your voice into words. You can get software that transcribes your words into voice, in your voice. You have to spend about 20 minutes training it. But then in whatever you type, it can read off in your voice.

Inara Starr: Oh, that's awesome.

Matthew Holliday: You could almost do like an AI generated podcast where you give it like genres of questions to ask, and it would transcribe the person you're interviewing or you could use it to help you out. You could be like, suggest follow up questions, and then it, here's what the model says, and then suggest like a list of questions.

It'd be very

Inara Starr: Yeah. That's [00:03:00] awesome.

Matthew Holliday: maybe, maybe

Inara Starr: Maybe, or it's just gonna be a bunch of like stereotypical questions or just nonsense

Matthew Holliday: Well, I mean, honestly, the questions aren't usually the interesting part of the podcast, right? Nobody's here to listen to me ask dumb questions.

Inara Starr: True, true.

Matthew Holliday: Uh, or on the other hand, it depends on what the training data is. If it's trained on like only Fann comments, it's gonna respond with some really awful things.

Inara Starr: Oh my gosh, that'd be horrible.

Matthew Holliday: All right, so as always, we like to generally start off some, some questions about you before we get into our subject. you mentioned, the first question was, how long have you been modeling? And you answered it in the intro, you sent me

Inara Starr: I like, uh, I like being, uh, being first to the punch.

Matthew Holliday: that's fair. You definitely beat me. Uh, how did you get into it?

Inara Starr: Um, I'm not like a hundred percent certain exactly. Um, I know I got to my [00:04:00] first photo shoot when I started modeled Mayhem for some reason. I can't tell you why. Couldn't tell you why I majored in photography. So I'm wondering if it had something to do with that. If I, like, I might have got on as a photographer looking for models and then was like, well, I'm attractive so I could also model.

And then just got jobs that.

Matthew Holliday: Interesting. There's not many. Female photographers especially that are shooting, well, I guess not. Not many shooting nude models. There's probably quite a few shooting fashion and that

Inara Starr: Yes. Yeah,

Matthew Holliday: Do you run into a lot of female photographers?

Inara Starr: I, I've actually run into a few of them. My favorite shoots are normally with female photographers.

Matthew Holliday: Is that due to comfort or do they have the best ideas?

Inara Starr: I mean, there's just a, there's a flow that's more natural, I feel like a lot of [00:05:00] times between, um, women more so than it is between like a man and a woman, especially model photographers. So girls who have modeled and done photography,

Matthew Holliday: Mm-hmm.

Inara Starr: uh, those are always very easy to work with because they know what it's like for both sides.

Matthew Holliday: I tried to be a model, but nobody wanted to take pictures of my fat, out of weight, overweight acid. It's so weird.

Inara Starr: I mean you could do, so there's a genre where it's like pinup guys and it's a bunch of thick pinup guys and it's pretty awesome. It's one of my favorite things to, one of my favorite genres is just thick boy pinups.

Matthew Holliday: That's fair. Uh, is there a difference in the types of photographs that male photographers versus female photographers want

Inara Starr: It depends on the male photographer. I haven't had a female photographer that is just creepy [00:06:00] and pervy, um, but definitely interacted with male photographers like that. So some of them are just not getting great shots. They just want to see everything.

Matthew Holliday: yeah, I've definitely had discussions with some models before that are like some of the, some of the male photographers are not really here to get photographs. They're here to hang out with a naked woman. So,

Inara Starr: Yep. Yep. And I normally can sort of tell when that's the case and they pay more

Matthew Holliday: So I, I, ooh, I don't, we're not talking about pay today and I don't wanna dive into that cuz we're gonna get distracted and we're gonna not. So, but I, I, you know what I am You brought it up. I am gonna bring that up. Uh, so one of the things that we're gonna talk about more in the culture part, I was listening to a podcast this morning and one of the things they were talking about was a really famous adult model, and we'll talk more about her later.

But one of her comments specifically [00:07:00] was, she was only in the industry for about eight months and she did something like 80 something scenes in that eight months. Uh, she's the number one searched for actress on many of the tube sites, but she didn't even make a hundred thousand dollars in income that.

Inara Starr: Um, it's, it's less about. How much you do then how good you are at marketing. Cause some girls, just, some girls make bank also just, uh, just topless ticks because of the way they've marketed themselves and the way they've, uh, released their naked body to the world. it's a lot of about how you can sell yourself than, um, than necessarily about how much you do, unfortunately.

Matthew Holliday: Does that still apply to the modeling side or is that more apply to the content [00:08:00] creation side?

Inara Starr: The modeling side.

Matthew Holliday: hmm.

Inara Starr: It's about, well at least the way, I don't have like an agent or anything like that. So it's me advertising to people out there in the world to work with me.

Matthew Holliday: So I know that I've definitely seen, and, and we don't, we typically don't discuss explicit rates. Uh, generally when people say they're rates on here, we, I, and I have mixed feelings on it because on one hand there's some good that would come out of normalizing rates cuz I've had people quote me as low as an hour for modeling and, and I'm like, uh, you should really be charging more than that.

But then on the other hand, I've had people quote me as much an hour.

Inara Starr: Yep.

Matthew Holliday: so there's definitely a wide, and that's, and I'm, again, I'm a hobbyist, I'm an amateur. Like I'm not working with, uh, like serious pro al. Although a lot of the people that are recognized, I've had some of them quote me somewhere in the middle, we'll say,

Inara Starr: Mm-hmm.

Matthew Holliday: the pay seems [00:09:00] widely disparate and some of it is easily attributable to experience and some of it is not.

Inara Starr: Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, it's a lot about what people want from you specifically. and like if you're, if you've managed to fit part of a niche or something like that, that makes you unique. So like more people are going to wanna book with you because you are different.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on the, so the, the, her big issue was that she only paid a little, she was only paid, you know, less than a hundred thousand. And she's been the number one person for years. I assume that means they're making lots of residuals off of her, uh, work. Do you, my, my, my big, I'm a mixed feelings here.

Cause on one hand I'm like, yes, you should absolutely be paid more. But on the other hand, I'm like, I, but then I would [00:10:00] never be able to afford to shoot with models,

Inara Starr: Yeah. Yeah. Well there's like, I think there's a lot of like really talented models that. I would say fairly inexpensive rates for how talented they are and how much experience they have. And then you have some people who just come in charging an ungodly amount based off of who knows what. But it's, it's very much, it's a, it's a, a negotiation game, unfortunately.

Matthew Holliday: I hate as an introvert, like just tell me like, and if it's, and if I can't afford it, I can't afford it. Like, thank you. I, I'll see you again when maybe I'm richer

Inara Starr: Yeah. They're like some photographers that I'm willing to, I'm like, you don't need to pay me. You do really, really good work [00:11:00] and you are very close by and you immediately send me the photos. So like all of this together. Yeah, I'll absolutely like shoot with you for free. Um, especially if it's like a, a hobbyist photographer or somebody who can't really afford to pay a lot, or somebody who normally gets paid for

Matthew Holliday: Mm. Yeah. And, uh, there's something to be said about convenience. Uh, like you said, you don't have to travel, you don't have to wait forever for a tfp. That's true.

Inara Starr: especially, uh, I have really bad driving anxiety, so going distances is, is not always the easiest thing to do. So it actually like, takes a lot out on me when I have to travel for, uh, a shoot. That's too far.

Matthew Holliday: And you offered to come down to shoot with me. I'm touched

Inara Starr: You, uh, you, I liked your work and you weren't [00:12:00] that far.

Matthew Holliday: That's good. Not that far.

Inara Starr: Yeah.

Matthew Holliday: So as I see it, and hopefully, or maybe you have a better idea, uh, the way I see it, the way I see it, there's, there's basically two ways that I see to handle it. And it sounds like you're doing a little both In some ways. Uh, like right now, we effectively kind of have three tiers of models.

There are models who are trying to break in. They're not charging for the work they're trying to do. T f p, they're, they're the ones trying to build up their portfolio. There are models that are reasonably well established. They're charging for their work. They may be charging too much or too little, but they're, they're, they're generally affordable, shall we say.

I, I almost don't want to use that word cuz that almost has a negative connotation when you're talking about another human being. And then you've got

Inara Starr: Yeah, no, I get that. But like it's, it's the right word. It just feels bad.

Matthew Holliday: and then there's like the models, like the, the really kind of specialized, you know, fetish or, [00:13:00] or famous like they've been in Playboy or et cetera. And they get to charge basically whatever they want because I, I assume they do. I don't know, actually I should, uh, I should go find one of them. I've spoken with a couple that are

Inara Starr: some of them do, and it also depends on like how popular and Playboy they are.

Matthew Holliday: Gotcha. Uh, I've seen, I've, I've met some that you would think would, that are charging kind of the standard rate that, that you typically see, uh, which I find really interesting cause I'm like, you were at Playboy. Like, I feel like, uh,

Inara Starr: you could charge more if you wanted. I.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then the second way I see is basically you have to make an ahah minute decision, like when you're contacted by the photographer and be like, all right, well, they're not gonna sell it. They're, uh, look like a hobbyist. Like they look like they're not gonna be terribly sketchy. I am gonna ask for this much.

Versus if they're a professional photographer and this is for a campaign of some sort, or this is [00:14:00] for a site, like I'm going to take my normal rate and triple it.

Inara Starr: Yeah. Yeah. It really depends on, and it's also for me, a lot of it is, um, what kind of photographer they are. Are they one of the spineless photographers that will not stand up against sexual assault in the industry? Or are they super awesome and like very vocal about it?

Matthew Holliday: When you say vocal about it, do you mean vocal in general or vocal in terms of calling out specific people.

Inara Starr: Uh, in general, just talking about how it's like unacceptable and like people who, if they're throwing an event, will get rid of someone who is problematic as opposed to just like, Keeping them on so that they don't cause drama. I've had, um, multiple situations in which I've been like, are multiple photographers have, uh, [00:15:00] made it known that they will not stand up for, for, uh, models who get sexual assaulted because of the drama?

They think it's too dramatic.

Matthew Holliday: Let's get, let's, uh, we've, we've, we've, we've gotten off track a little bit and it was interesting and I'm glad we did, but let's get back, uh, let's get back on these questions. Uh, when did

Inara Starr: good.

Matthew Holliday: when did you decide to do erotic and fetish work? You started modeling in 2010. Did that, was that right away or did it happen along the way?

Inara Starr: it was, it was, uh, pretty quickly I was doing, it was supposed to just be like, A sensual shoot with, um, one of my friends. But we had been super attracted to each other for a really long time that it just didn't remain just gentle and sensual. So it got pretty erratic and I really liked those photos and I was like, [00:16:00] oh, oh shit.

I like this. I like this stuff. And then, um, in college I was a photography and graphic design major. I had to do a project and I had to make like a magazine about something and I was like, oh, I'm gonna make a magazine on kink. Cause I had joined a kink club and it's always sort of been like part of who I am.

And it's, it's taboo in a way that I like. And so I took pictures of a lot of fetish stuff for the magazine, and then I was like tied up and like hung up in a rope for a picture that I did for it. So I like put it where I wanted it to be and then had someone just click the button once I was, uh, hanging up.

And that was a lot of fun to [00:17:00] do. So I just, I was like, I'm gonna keep doing this.

Matthew Holliday: So wait a second. You put a fetish picture of yourself in your fetish project

Inara Starr: Yes.

Matthew Holliday: that I assume was there, was it displayed to everybody or did it just go to the teacher?

Inara Starr: Oh, everybody.

Matthew Holliday: How is that, that I'm just, I'm just imagining you're like presenting it to everybody and everybody being like, wait a second, is that, oh, holy shit.

Inara Starr: Um, I feel like that definitely happened. before that, in one of my photography classes, we were doing, uh, different photo projects and my friend was doing like hidden talents or whatever, and I was doing like nude modeling at the time, so he took like topless pictures of me.

Matthew Holliday: It's like the opposite of

Inara Starr: in photography, yeah, so in photography class we had to like put up our pictures on displays and there was a lot of crossover between the two classes, so [00:18:00] most people had already seen me topless.

So seeing me from the back is not that strange.

Matthew Holliday: So it sounds like you're definitely falling into the exhibitionist camp of models.

Inara Starr: 100%.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I've definitely noticed there's a pretty, pretty substantial def divide between the models that do this because, oh, of course it pays like every, everybody does it because it pays. But there's a big group of models that do it because they really like it and it pays, and then there's a big group that just do it because it pays and gives them freedom to, you know, of a customizable schedule and the ability to travel, et cetera.

Inara Starr: Yeah, it's definitely, um, definitely been, been a lot of fun. Um, and I've been involved in like various, like sexual things, so it's very much like, uh, it's very much something that I'm used to. I'm used to being around a bunch of [00:19:00] like, people who are sexually comfortable with themselves and also like comfortable being naked in like, Anot.

We have to have sex kind of a way.

Matthew Holliday: Mm-hmm.

Inara Starr: And it's, uh, it's really nice having that from. Certain groups of models that I've been with have been just that very open energy.

Matthew Holliday: Is that an energy that's more common in models

Inara Starr: Um,

Matthew Holliday: and or photo?

Inara Starr: I mean, definitely erotic models, some models. Uh, I actually modeled with someone recently and she had never done like a fetish or erotic shoot before, so it was her first one. Um, and she was definitely not that super comfortable open initially, but she was, she was open enough that throughout the day she was able to, um, sort of relax and come [00:20:00] out of her shell.

Matthew Holliday: I, the reason I ask is I worked in restaurants, uh, going through college and after college for a bit, and then I also, now I work in offices and I found that generally restaurant people are way more fun than office. People like office people are generally super buttoned up, super worried about, uh, Super worried about, you know, HR getting on them.

Like no, no, anything. Which in some ways is good because there's, you know, very little, well at least not out in the open, but everybody's very careful, you know, about like not sexually harassing people. Like there's, there's good parts about it not being,

Inara Starr: yes. Yeah.

Matthew Holliday: versus restaurant people who are like playing grab ass and everybody's hitting on everybody all the time and going out, drinking together until all evenings, so good and bad.

But I, I'm getting the feeling that models are more like restaurant people.

Inara Starr: definitely, definitely more like restaurant people. I would say office people, [00:21:00] it would probably be frowned upon to put your face into your coworker's boobs. Um, I feel like that's a little less frowned upon in the restaurant industry.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah. Yeah. So modeling is even more so , it's restaurant folks, but more so

Inara Starr: Yep.

Matthew Holliday: I'm gonna skip a couple of these questions, which is good though. That means we're having a good conversation. Uh, but I have to ask you about your social media name. You specifically picked a nara. The slut

Inara Starr: yes.

Matthew Holliday: obvious question is why

Inara Starr: Um, I, uh, I actually, I've always been very comfortable with being super sexual. It's always been, always been part of who I was, like when I was a child growing up, I wanted to be a prostitute. Like that's the energy I've. I've been living with, I've been kinky since I was young. Pretty [00:22:00] much everything has been, um, that way since I was younger.

And I also like, I like being more taboo for people. Like, I like that it's something that isn't like gasp for me. Like for me being naked and sex stuff and whatever is just, it's just a thing. It's not this big taboo thing to me. And so I like that. Um, I feel like I sort of have power over the people who are like, oh, I could never look at that.

That's h that's horrible. How could you?

Matthew Holliday: Hmm. Yeah, I think that actually is probably a pretty. Large chunk of the people that are into this industry is ones that deliberately want to tweak people's noses

Inara Starr: Yes.

Matthew Holliday: at the, like I said, the office people. Like look at the office people and be like, [00:23:00] oh, look at your normal, boring life. And then poof,

Inara Starr: Yep. Definitely, definitely.

Matthew Holliday: oh, I don't wanna talk about that. We're gonna talk about that, uh, in part two cuz there's something around the culture specifically around that and around people that feel like they're forced into doing adult work. Uh, but we'll get, so you're, so if you are a listener right now, you need to come back in two weeks and we will dive deeper into that All right. So let's, let's get a sheet out in groups before we run out of time. You were, when we were discussing topics, you specifically called out that you wanted to talk about the energy around a good group of models. And frankly, you've already kind of dived into it. You've already been talking about how easy and fun it is to hang out with a group of models and, uh, talked about office people versus restaurant people.

Uh, is there an official name for a group of models? You know, you call a a, it's a, a, a.

Inara Starr: There isn't an official name, but I spent a stupid amount of time trying to come up with something clever, like over an hour of me trying to think of something clever, [00:24:00] but I was not successful.

Matthew Holliday: Should have asked. Oh, nevermind. Yep. Yeah, I have, I have nothing either. I, I mean, I obviously, but I'm sure there's gotta be some, some, like, I looked online and they were suggesting like a lineup of models and I was like, eh,

Inara Starr: like, eh, I like, I mean, I, I hate, but my brain keeps thinking gaggle,

Matthew Holliday: I, I was thinking of that too. Like a gaggle of geese.

Inara Starr: It's just, I don't know why it feels right.

Matthew Holliday: That's funny. Yeah. There should be a name for, you know, something like, uh, uh, like a big photography event where the models are all running around and I feel like that should, I think that deserves an official name.

Inara Starr: I, I agree. I like that. I like that.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah. Uh, so where do you typically run into groups of models?

Inara Starr: Um, at, at shootouts mostly. Um, so like, uh, I recently went to a fetish [00:25:00] shootout for my friend, Scarlet Fever, um, which, Hey, Scarlet, see Remodeling, you should also look her up. She's awesome. Um, but, uh, I recently did her photo shoot and it was, it was so much fun and it definitely, uh, really, really solidified that.

I like doing fetish work whenever I'm like in a more fetishy position. I feel like my energy, I just have better energy. Um, and being around, uh, a bunch of models who are also like, like, oh, do you wanna smack my ass? Can I smack your ass? Can I put my lips on your ass? Absolutely. Like, do you wanna put your ass on my face?

Yeah, perfect. Like, so many just like wonderful things that I get to do because of [00:26:00] the, uh, just how comfortable we are all are with each other and that it's not necessarily like something sexual, it's just like, oh, this is lovely, but they're lovely. It's not necessarily like, oh, I'm turned on. It's just like, yay.

And being around a bunch of women who feel the same way or are like comfortable with that energy is just so much fun. It's so much fun and there's always a lot of like cat calling each other like, ow, ow. Get it, girl. Like, just yelling to other people. Um, and just getting their energy up with your energy and that's always very, uh, it's nice and it feels magical sometimes when you're shooting.

And, um, I went to a shoot, uh, it was a huge shootout and one of the [00:27:00] models there was like, like obsessed with her. She was awesome. And I was like, oh my God, I like, I can't believe I'm at the same event that she's at. And um, as I was modeling, she like came by and she like, cat called me and was like, you look hot girl.

And I just couldn't, I was over the moon that, uh, This model that I'm like, oh my God, she's such a famous model, is like talking to me and treating me like a person and treating me like I'm also awesome.

Matthew Holliday: that, so, so it sounds like the, the focus really adheres on the models and what, what I find interesting is from the perspective, and obviously not a professional photographers, not a photographers, they're doing this for the purpose of art, but a lot of those amateur photographers, the ones you were talking about before, that they just [00:28:00] want to hang out with an naked woman.

It sounds like their wet dream,

Inara Starr: Oh, absolutely, absolutely is. And it absolutely was. Like, it was definitely like, so, um, it was a bunch of models and at one point, like in between shoots, we would just lay out nude by the pool and just hang out and. Get a little tan, get some sun chat, maybe get in the pool, just hang out. And a photographer walked by us and was just like, oh, this is a dirty old man's wet dream.

And we're like, did you need to say that out loud near us?

Matthew Holliday: Well, obviously he wanted your attention so.

Inara Starr: And like the reason why it's a lot about the models is because if you are with the models who are good and like [00:29:00] supportive, that'll be, that energy is quickly, just like quickly brushed away because we all, like he said it, he walked away and we're all like, gross. That man is gross. And just like we could immediately acknowledge that we all freaking hate what just happened.

Matthew Holliday: mm-hmm.

Inara Starr: but it's, it's easier when you're not alone experiencing that.

Matthew Holliday: and really the photographers that are gonna want to participate in that are either going to be super familiar with everybody and therefore permitted to, or they're gonna be creepy and they're gonna try and force their way into that.

Inara Starr: Yep. That's, that's the one and that is why.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah.

Inara Starr: Yeah,

Matthew Holliday: Can you create that energy or does it just kind of happen when the right group of models get together?

Inara Starr: I think it just sort of happens when the right group of group of models gets together. There are ways [00:30:00] you can a group that is not great and make it better by having different, like either removing people who are bad for the group or like resolving conflict within the, essentially like being good at therapy within the group of models.

Like being able to resolve conflict in a way that's not going to blow up.

Matthew Holliday: Hmm. All right. Uh, do Okay. Do you run into models that aren't into that energy?

Inara Starr: Some of the times there are some of them that are more standoffish. I've definitely heard of ones that are like super petty and like rude and like that's, that's the energy they like because that's the kind of, that's when they can have the power is when it has that sort of [00:31:00] toxic air of, um, whoever can be the most manipulative, can get the most stuff or whatever.

Matthew Holliday: Hmm. Yeah, I think I'm in agreement. I think that it's definitely, it's definitely, like you mentioned something that you have to find. You can't just create it out of thin air because you do have this, this goes back to what we were talking about. There are people in modeling that are here because they wanna make money or they have a specific interest in a specific type of art, and they may not be, may not be participatory.

Inara Starr: Mm-hmm. . And like, um, there are a lot of times doing group shoots if somebody isn't as comfortable being touched by and touching other people, the photos just don't turn out as, as well as they could.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I was at a recent, I was at a recent shoot where they were encouraging photographers to bring in models together, and I hadn't [00:32:00] considered that, like the models feeding off of each other. If you get a, if you get a good pair that you know worked together well.

Inara Starr: Oh, it definitely, um, I've got a, uh, snazzy Cay photos, aka email hippie chick. She is, and Anastasia may. Uh, we, uh, all got together and since we all take pictures and we all model, we just got a studio and messed around, uh, together and it was, the energy was so great between everyone because no matter who was shooting or who was modeling, like we could work together really well.

I got so many amazing photos from that shoot.

Matthew Holliday: Yeah, I've been seeing a couple of them posted online. Yeah. And both. Uh hmm.

Inara Starr: with Christmas

Matthew Holliday: Yes, there was a lot of Santa hats and red velvet. [00:33:00] All right, so an our work. Can everyone find you online?

Inara Starr: an the slut. I N A R A T A e S L U T. Um, and I'm on Facebook as an NA star with two. Because two Rs makes it slutty.

Matthew Holliday: What

Inara Starr: That is a, a model, a not, not a model, a, a model that, uh, one of my friends had, which is why the star in my last name has two Rs.

Matthew Holliday: It just sounds like, uh, that sounds like that has the same like cadence in college. I had a friend who used to say, when boys think see your belly, they think of sex. Like it has the exact same sort of cadence and sort of feel to it.

Inara Starr: Got it. Yep.

Matthew Holliday: All right, and with that, we are done. Check out part two in just two weeks.

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